I could not start this category except with the old and wise anti.security.is home page statement and some Q&A.
This is what it was writ-ed once upon a time….
The purpose of this movement is to encourage a new policy of anti-disclosure among the computer and network security communities. The goal is not to ultimately discourage the publication of all security-related news and developments, but rather, to stop the disclosure of all unknown or non-public exploits and vulnerabilities. In essence, this would put a stop to the publication of all private materials that could allow script kiddies from compromising systems via unknown methods.
The open-source movement has been an invaluable tool in the computer world, and we are all indebted to it. Open-source is a wonderful concept which should and will exist forever, as educational, scientific, and end-user software should be free and available to everybody.
Exploits, on the other hand, do not fall into this broad category. Just like munitions, which span from cryptographic algorithms to hand guns to missiles, and may not be spread without the control of export restrictions, exploits should not be released to a mass public of millions of Internet users. A digital holocaust occurs each time an exploit appears on Bugtraq, and kids across the world download it and target unprepared system administrators. Quite frankly, the integrity of systems world wide will be ensured to a much greater extent when exploits are kept private, and not published.
A common misconception is that if groups or individuals keep exploits and security secrets to themselves, they will become the dominators of the “illegal scene”, as countless insecure systems will be solely at their mercy. This is far from the truth. Forums for information trade, such as Bugtraq, Packetstorm, www.hack.co.za, and vuln-dev have done much more to harm the underground and net than they have done to help them.
What casual browsers of these sites and mailing lists fail to realize is that some of the more prominent groups do not publish their findings immediately, but only as a last resort in the case that their code is leaked or has become obsolete. This is why production dates in header files often precede release dates by a matter of months or even years.
Another false conclusion by the same manner is that if these groups haven’t released anything in a matter of months, it must be because they haven’t found anything new. The regular reader must be made aware of these things.
We are not trying to discourage exploit development or source auditing. We are merely trying to stop the results of these efforts from seeing the light. Please join us if you would like to see a stop to the commercialization, media, and general abuse of infosec.
Thank you.
Quoting from some Q&A :
| (this is free-speach copyright, mean like i told that to you freely in personal/public talk, so you can do anything to it) Q: Why security is bad thing? A: In short – hell is totally secure. Do we want live in hell?.. If people follow security at first everywhere – probably we will still live in den. Q: What is nature of security? Q: Technology of war in security? What do you mean? Q: Who profits from the infosec war? Q: How do scriptkiddies help security? Q: Can I sleep safely at night while Bugtraq is around? Q: How does Bugtraq help security? Q: What’s wrong with full disclosure? Q: We should fix all bugs! How could it be otherwise? Q: Isn’t all hackers is a bad people? Q: All admins are good/bad people? Q: Why worry about security? Vulnerabilities will always exist and there is no absolute protection against them. I can’t disallow people come to my computer, but I can make another restriction so even if them come they can’t access data. I put encrypted disk. Side efect is i need always enter password myself and id slower disk operation. Q: What are “grayhats” and how are they different from whitehats and blackhats? Q: Is antiSecurity motivated in any part by personal profit? Q: Is antiSecurity trying to change the world? Isn’t that a bit radical? Q: What does antiSecurity suggest we do about people who siphon their reputations off the hard work and creativity of others (ie Aleph1, route) ? Q: Is there anything I can do to help? Q: Give me your root password, or i don’t believe you! |
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now the main concept of this movement, as you (I hope) understand is stop publishing exploit, this could be mis-understead as “don’t find exploits” but this is not the message.
In deed finding exploits, help security, helps quality code writing and improve the technology.
The problem is that with publishing this exploits and make them available online for all with an mini how-to DESTROY attached to the exploit we are just selling weapons of mass-destruction at the corner.
WHY? , lol I’m just asking my self when milw0rm whent down how many web-sites and servers where saved from the rutine defacement, and how many admins was saved?
Until the programmer are humans, in the code will be always a bug, trying to find them improve security and improve technology, publishing them helps destruction and help the Security Industry make his money.
PS, I’m not a hacker, I’m only interested in publishing this information so many people should understand what’s right and what’s wrong.
What is in reality security and what is understood this days with “security”.
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